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Devojka sa mesecom u očima
post Jan 3 2008, 02:07 AM
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Gledala sam troju vecheras po ko zna koji put i opet me spopada pitanje zashto se ratuje? Inache, zaista ozbiljno razmishljam o vojsci. Mozda bi bilo cool prijaviti se... (a kako se ovde stalno ratuje) ici u rat...

Dakle, da li ste protiv rata? Za rat? Rat u odbrani? Osvajachki? KOji vam se chine onako... prihvatljivi?


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post Jan 3 2008, 02:12 AM
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Nijedan. Ako se bas mora odbrambeni ali uvek sam za pregovore i za diplomatsko resavanje konflikta.
Uvek gine najobicniji narod, a onaj koji ne izgine dozivljava traume.
Sada se svi ratovi resavaju nekim rezolucijama UN i ne vredi ginuti kada se u 99% slucajeva vec zna rezultat rata dry.gif


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post Jan 3 2008, 02:17 AM
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Slazem se, mada, nas stalno napadaju. Kada bismo mi nekog napali, mozda bismo manje stradali. MI se uvek povlachimo sad.gif

I, da, poznato mi je da je sve vec unapred odlucheno sad.gif


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post Jan 3 2008, 02:47 AM
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U danasnje vreme, nije bas tako jednostavno zaratiti (sem nekima). Koga bismo mi napali?

Svi veliki ratovi su bili igra velikih sila, a mi smo oba puta pustili da nas uvuku u tu igru, i nastradali.

Danas se ratovi vode iz drugih razloga.

I ne, ne bi bilo cool prijaviti se u vojsku (nadam se da si ovo rekla u ironiji)


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post Jan 3 2008, 02:49 AM
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post Jan 3 2008, 02:51 AM
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post Jan 3 2008, 02:55 AM
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Pa shta je tu toliko chudno? Mada, mislim da ne bih izdrzala sad.gif, ali vredelo bi prijaviti se biggrin.gif. Rekla sam to jednom friendu i zablenuo se u mene.... ono.... propisno XD.gif. Meni nije fora sam rat ili vojska, vec odbrana domovine.


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post Jan 3 2008, 04:08 AM
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Rat k'o rat. Nisi musko, why do you give a damn?


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post Jan 3 2008, 10:30 AM
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Ja necu u vojsku nono.gif
Inace mislim da bi trebalo uvesti da vojska bude placenicka, jer bi tada bila profesionalna i ne bi obicni smrtnici bili maltretirani u njoj dry.gif


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post Jan 3 2008, 10:46 AM
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nekada sam bio patriota do granica shovinizma, sad mogu da kazem da volim svoju zemlju ali ne bi rado dao bulju za svakog idiota koji sedi za stolicom i hoce da se igra rata zato sto je to radio njegov deda..

Apsolutno sam protiv rata (ne mogu bas da kazem da sam pacifista, ali ko danas jeste?). Rat je mesto kada prestanes da budes covek, nema coveka koji ce da prati zenevski kodeks kad vidi mozak prijatelja na podu pored sebe ili oseti miris sprzenog covecijeg mesa (al sam bolestan od jutros biggrin.gif )...

Na rat vise gledam kao poslednju kartu u igri blefa diplomata, samo sto je retko stvarno tako.. Neko se uvredi i puf eto ti rata..

Evo sad za kosovo iskreno se nadam da ovi samo blefiraju sa pominjanjem rata jer ce mo biti zgazeni i bez kosova, a u drugom slucaju samo bez kosova.. a opet sa samim spominjanjem rata dize se tenzija i opvcava mogucnost da izbije neko sranje..

Sad ocekujem neke HC nacionaliste da dodju da me peglaju, ali dobro..

..o da mrzim rat..


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post Jan 3 2008, 11:28 AM
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Uf. Jako kompleksna tema.

Ako ćemo površno, da, protiv rata sam.

Međutim, ako ćemo dublje zalaziti u problematiku, ne mogu reći da li sam za ili protiv. Jer bih morala znati o čemu se radi. Mislim, odbrana u ratu je po meni ok. Nije dobro uvek povući se (parim da je sb na to implicirala?), jer .. mislim, da ne objašnjavam, valjda vam je jasno. Nažalost, katkad se nađe situacija u kojoj je rat neizbežan. Ali, ja sam za to da izbegavamo takve situacije.

A što se Kosova tiče - gledaj, i da neko zaista krene tamo ratovati, nemaju mnogo šansi za "uspeh".

Edit:
Ovo glede vojske. Glupost totalna. Mislim da se možeš prijaviti za vojsku ako baš želiš iako si cura (raspitaj se), ali to mi je jadno. Sama ta ideja vojske. Uostalom, od koga bi danas branila domovinu? Osim ako možda želiš i ti poći u "odbranu Kosova"? wacko.gif. EU želi stabilnu regiju na Balkanu, i ne bi dopustili da dođe do nekog rata poput onog 90tih ili onoga ranije - to im apsolutno ne može biti u interesu. A plus toga, sumnjam da bi iti jedna od okolnih država sada objavila Srbiji rat; ne samo što nemaju nekog razloga, već nije niti njima to u interesu.

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post Jan 3 2008, 12:07 PM
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Ko hoce da ratuje za Kosovo samo neka izvoli, ali bez mene...
To bi bio najgluplji rat u istoriji covecanstva, a ko zna kakve bi jos probleme izazvao...

Inace, smatram da ako se jednom zarati onda nema nazad. Ne treba se povlaciti bez i jednog izgubljenog metka.


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To be a rock and not to roll


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post Jan 3 2008, 12:27 PM
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Rat je besmislen, u njemu se velike sile obracunavaju preko malih ljudi.

Evo nekoliko odlicnih pesama koje govore o ratu:

Black Sabbath - War Pigs
Guns n' Roses - Civil War
Serj Tankian - Empty Walls
Megadeth - Peace Sells ( But who's buying )
i jos mnogo drugih koje me mrzi da nabrajam..

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post Jan 3 2008, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(Slovenatz @ Jan 3 2008, 01:27 PM)
Rat je besmislen, u njemu se velike sile obracunavaju preko malih ljudi.

Evo nekoliko odlicnih pesama koje govore o ratu:

Black Sabbath - War Pigs
Guns n' Roses - Civil War
Serj Tankian - Empty Walls
Megadeth - Peace Sells ( But who's buying )
i jos mnogo drugih koje me mrzi da nabrajam..
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Tako je. Veliki respect smile.gif
Evo ja ću dodati još
The Doors - Unknown Soldier (najoštrija anti-Vietnam-war pesma)
John Lennon - Imagine
Bob Dylan - Blowin' in the wind
The Crannberies - Zombie

(ja na lastFMu imam tag anti-war XD.gif)

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post Jan 3 2008, 12:57 PM
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I ja sam gledao Troju sinoc..Koliko je ljudi izginulo samo zato sto Paris nije mogao da drzi k**** u gacama..nego je morao da odvede Helenu..
Nekada je rat bila normalna pojava..imas vojsku,imas pare..nadjes neki bzvz povod(u ovom slucaju odvodjenje Helene) i mozes s punim pravom da unistavas koliko hoces..Cini mi se da sada ljudi malo zaziru od rata,pogotovo zbog ovog extra-destruktivnog oruzja koje se proizvodi..Mozda bi 3.svetski rat bio i poslednji..
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post Jan 3 2008, 02:04 PM
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Rat postoji i uvek ce postojati dokle god je coveka i njegove potrebe da prezivi.
Shta, kao ne bi ratovali da hoce da nas unishte neki alieni?

BTW - dokle god je Marsa, kao planete, bice i ratova.


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post Jan 3 2008, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(Dex @ Jan 3 2008, 12:57 PM)
I ja sam gledao Troju sinoc..Koliko je ljudi izginulo samo zato sto Paris nije mogao da drzi k**** u gacama..nego je morao da odvede Helenu..
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Lol, do rata bi doslo u svakom slucaju, ovo je samo bio nacin da Grci ne ispadnu pohlepna stoka koja pokusava da siri svoj uticaj po svaku cenu.


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post Jan 3 2008, 02:12 PM
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E taman da kupim zolju da skinem mars i sve sredjeno XD.gif


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post Jan 3 2008, 02:14 PM
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Komarac ne moze da "sredi" TA pec laugh.gif


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post Jan 3 2008, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(Iva @ Jan 3 2008, 12:35 PM)
Tako je. Veliki respect smile.gif
Evo ja ću dodati još
The Doors - Unknown Soldier (najoštrija anti-Vietnam-war pesma)
John Lennon - Imagine
Bob Dylan - Blowin' in the wind
The Crannberies - Zombie

(ja na lastFMu imam tag anti-war XD.gif)
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Zaboravili ste let the sun shine.

Inace film troja je sranje, nema veze sa pricom.

Sto se stvarne situacije tice mislim da rata na kosovu nece biti, mozda ce neki likovi da odu (ima raznih budala), ali ne bi bilo svrhe voditi taj rat. U slucaju da izbije neki svetski sukob tu bi stvar bila potpuno drugacija

@loshmee zivot se ne daje za nekog dedu, vec za otadzbinu. Procitaj od Rakica ''Na Gazimestanu''


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